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Internet off - sprinklers on/off intermittently

Luke Johnson
Updated at 2024-02-17 22:49:05 UTC 

We have an internet outage - Netro knows the smart watering cycle and continues to turn on through the stations at the correct time, however runs intermittently. 5 seconds on, 1 min off. Is there anything I can do to help stay on?

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Multiple watering a day

Phil Rubin
Updated at 2024-02-17 04:33:52 UTC 
I need to run watering programs 2-3 times in a day, every day. I have "two fra m es" checked but it only will do one.  What do I  need to do?
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Pump

Carmelo Anaya
Updated at 2024-02-12 20:44:48 UTC 
I have 6 zones but only 4 require to switch on the pump. How can I switch the pump individually on each zone?
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Sprite vs Spark - Backup and Faulty Valve Detection

Keith Chambers
Updated at 2024-02-11 09:30:43 UTC 
Topic: General

Very happy Sprite user for a year or so - but at this location I have a limitation I need to resolve... and thinking upgrading to Spark - will it resolve the issue ????


So I have installed the Sprite in a rental property - wanting to ensure that the tennents actually look after the garden and look after the place - and one of those things I have done is put in automated sprinklers and drippers to gardens to esnure that the garden gets watered and the grass and plants dont die in the harsh australian climate...


But what I found with a set of tennents is that they did not bother getting or setting up a wifi network. So the sprite had nothing to connect to and hence ran no programs - no connectivity / no watering....


So the Spark has a backup program apparantly.... I assume this means the Spark would have memory and know a schedule of sorts... Of course without connectivity there is no checking on rain schedules etc... Thats fine...  But does it mean if I set up a program to water the lawn for 30 minutes every second day while it had internet connectivity.. If the internet disapears will that mean the program will continue to drive the solonoids at appropriate time and hence carry on watering the garden.


What is the limitation - of cpurse internet features would not be available - is it only manual schedules that would operate - just on time schedules - would it run only for a week or could it run indefinately - or even just a year - until the internet returned...


What is the backup - what is the limitations - how does it work - what are the features !


Similarly how does the faulty valve detection work... Is it just a measure of resistance or what how does this feature work...  If the spark had the capability of measuring water flow (like some controllers do) - then it would be a great feature in measuring the volume of water consumed and of course this would also be an easy way of measuring valve detection... Flow with valve closed = leak somewhere and No flow with valve open = blockage or solonoid issue..... But that is not the feature - so trying to understand functionally and technically what the valve detection is....


Thanks


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Port 1883 is blocked by the touter

Gary Harpley
Updated at 2024-02-10 05:49:13 UTC 

Hi. Im a new user and everytning seems to be working ss it should but i get the following message when i check the server status




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Connecting to Wi-Fi

Linda Lopez
Updated at 2024-02-07 16:08:44 UTC 
I've had Netro for 3 years I changed my wifi and I updated it my app. It worked for a couple of weeks and all of a sudden it stopped working. I can't get it to connect to the wifi. It says offline. I can't even do a manual run. Does anyone have any suggestions? 
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Weather Underground

Gary Harpley
Updated at 2024-02-06 06:06:14 UTC 
Hi. The app wont let me add my wundergound id number (IWAGGA24). Can you please help
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Istruzioni

Alexxxx
Updated at 2024-02-05 20:31:47 UTC 
Dove trovo le istruzioni perla programmazione Dell app in Italiano? 
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Stop manual mode

Martina Brasesco
Updated at 2024-02-04 15:19:31 UTC 

Buongiorno,

ho appena installato il mio nuovo NETRO, ma non riesco a stoppare l'irrigazione che è partita automaticamente non appena lo ho installato. Potreste aiutarmi?

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Data records

David Lrx
Updated at 2024-02-03 12:14:57 UTC 

Hi,

Is it possible to upload data from the app so I can keep record on an externat file for more than a month ?

I would like to keep record for a year long. 


Thanks, 

David. 

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Spark showing error 1 on all solenoids

Mick Faulks
Updated at 2024-02-01 00:40:26 UTC 
My Spark has stopped watering and is showing error 1 short circuit on every solenoid. I have tested each solenoid individually and they all operate disconnected from the spark. After multiple hard resets it started working correctly for a short time now it is saying all the solenoids are open circuit. I have tested all the solenoids and they are working perfectly.
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Manual run times need to be longer and editable while running

Richard
Updated at 2024-01-19 21:27:13 UTC 

Hi Netro,


One frustration I have is that manual run times are important to me but cannot be longer than 1 hour (or programs) and cannot be adjusted while running.


I have Netro connected to a solenoid that controls watering of our small vineyard.

I rarely water in any way other than manual, because I need to control the amount of watering and also use fertigation to feed the vines.


Due to the amount of water required, I need between two to three hours of watering. I also like to adjust as I go, depending on how long the fertigation takes, so the ability to increase time without stopping the watering is also important.


My other solution is to disconnect the wire from Netro and use a Shelly 1 instead, whereby I can turn the watering on and off as I desire.


I would rather just use the Netro app, given that everything is already connected.


It is quite limiting to not allow hours as well as minutes (or to allow more than 60 minutes). amd not to be able to increase (or decrease) the time while the manual run is going.

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Help Finding/Identifying a Replacement Part

plmacia
Updated at 2024-01-17 23:54:47 UTC 
Topic: General

I purchased my Pixie in April 2022 and it has been great! Unfortunately this past season then top connector part cracked and is unusable due to the leaks. I believe it is still under warranty, would I be able to receive a new part? Pic of the part is attached. 

If not, would you be able to tell me the specifications of the part so I can order it elsewhere (The inner and outer piece).



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Moisture watering adjustment

Alfonso Olias Sanz
Updated at 2024-01-09 20:27:04 UTC 

Hi there I have one of the whisperer that doesn't allow to adjust watering below 50%, 

Sensor number 2 in my installation. 

All the rest I can chose lower values


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Netro does not use the rainfall amount from connected weatherstations

Richard
Updated at 2024-01-07 22:48:08 UTC 

UPDATE 8/1/2024

I can confirm that the system is working well. The system forecast about 25mm of rain for yesterday , but we had 34mm based on Weatherflow. This morning, the system had corrected the amount in Netro. Well done to the dev team for rolling out a fix so quickly, once the problem was identified.

I can now say that Netro is a smart watering system!


UPDATE: 5/1/2024

Netro have been fantastic. They have updated their system already to make Weatherflow work as you would expect. However, I am yet to see the results of this.

Rain is anticipated tomorrow (7/1/2024) and the following day.

I will monitor the system to ensure that the correct rainfall amount is in the database early enough for the schedule to be adjusted by their algorithms.


UPDATE: 4/1/2024

I have been working with the Netro techs to isolate the problem.

The issue is that yesterday's rainfall is not being calculated using the local time zone. Instead, it is using UTC midnight to midnight and an offset of 1 day. This means that the data can be 1.5 days out for someone like me who is GMT+11.

There may also be an issue with the timing of when then the rainfall for yesterday is retrieved. The Weatherflow API needs to be called just after nidnight so that the Netro scheduling can adjust, ready for early morning watering.



ORIGINAL:

I thought I would write an article to explain why Netro is not a smart weatherstation.


I have two Netros and 7 Whisperers, and use them in all aspects of watering - to water lawn, vineyard, fruit trees, vegetables and even to fill our bird baths.


But the most frustrating aspect of Netro is that is does not use the correct amount of rainfall, even when connected to a smart weatherstation such as Weatherflow Tempest or WU (I have my Tempest send data to WU).


Why is this a problem? Because the rainfall estimate provided by the forecasting models do not predict how much rain your specific area will receive. They provide two numbers: a percentage chance of receiving rain, and a minimal amount of rain that you will receive, if your receive rain at all. What does this mean?


If the prediction is that you are 60% likely to receive rain of 10mm, this does not mean that you will receive approximately 6mm of rain. It means that you are 60% likely to receive rain and 40% likely to receive no rain at all. If you receive rain, you are then likely to receive a minimum of 10mm.


Netro mistakenly combines these values to tell the system that you received 6mm of rain. And then might not water. This can lead to plants dying, as was our case, when rainfall was predicted every day for a week and we did not receive a drop. Other areas around us received varying amounts of rain.


The frustration is that Netro has a connection to both Weatherflow and to personal weatherstations via Weather Underground, and therefore has no excuse as to not use the correct value of rainfall.


Their solution is to use the Discover feature to correct yesterday's (and today's) rainfall manually. I would recommend 100% to use this feature.

https://netrohome.com/forum/posts/357


Unfortunately, Netro still applies a percentage to the corrected number which means that the amount of rainfall collected is still less than the actual amount received.


I have solved this problem by automating this process via Home Assistant, which knows yesterday's rainfall from my Weatherflow Tempest and sends the value to Netro via their API. This has resulted in a much more intelligent watering regime.


So, to Netro and their techs, well done on a great system, but it won't be truly great until you implement the most important aspect of any smart watering station - the ability to know how much rainfall fell on a client's land, and therefore how much to water.


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PM Time

Cacho
Updated at 2024-01-01 15:43:35 UTC 
Hello again, i found that i can set night times on the webpage, and it get sets on the app after that.   But if i try from the app i cannot set any night times.
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PM time

Cacho
Updated at 2023-12-31 19:38:05 UTC 

Hello, need help.

I cannot enter PM times on program.

Always return to AM. Not possible program at night. 

Thank you. 


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Stand alone Whisperer 2 Sensor

suddath
Updated at 2023-12-30 17:56:29 UTC 

Hi,

We have a Netro Pixie that we have been using to water trees in our backyard.

We purchased two Whisperer 2 sensors to help understand how much to water.

We paired and installed one sensor which is linked to the Pixie.  This sensor works well and reports light, moisture and temperature and appears in the app in the zone watered by our Pixie.

The other sensor installed as "standalone".  This sensor does not show up on our app including in settings.

How do we access this "standalone" sensor or data?

thank you.



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Thresholds

Shady Trails
Updated at 2023-12-23 16:16:15 UTC 

1. Weather thresholds settings are not working

2. Should have thresholds settings by moisture levels 

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Garden Types

Sean
Updated at 2023-12-19 14:05:15 UTC 
Would it be possible to create a category called Market Garden ( I grow leafy greens and herbs using drip irrigation) for those of us who use Netro for this use. 
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